This is a discussion that took place on September 12, 2017. John was a participant and it originally appeared on the Abundant Community website.
About every six weeks, for the last five years, John and Peter have hosted online / dial-up conversations with community-building pioneers as their guests. For their September 12, 2017 dialog they invited YES! Magazine co-founder Sarah van Gelder to share the stories she gathered on her 12,000-mile cross-country journey from people who were re-making America from the ground up, taking on the climate crisis, wealth inequality, and racial exclusion.
Download or listen to the audio here. For more on Sarah’s thinking and work, see the list on her author page.